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of the confederation, that government is too weak so we are starting to write the constitution. this is where the second amendment obviously comes. how did this all develop? >> guest: nowadays it's become fashionable among the people that support them rights strongly to pick out this or that quotation from that leader like samuel adams or thomas jefferson or whoever and implied that in the second amendment is basically seen as a rate of the individuals to defend themselves and defend themselves against the government when it became tyrannical. that is a misunderstanding. it was a political matter in the second amendment. it was a part of what became the bill of rights, and the reason for it is that when -- after the unhappy experience of the articles of the confederation led the founders to try to figure out a better way of governing this country, they came up with a constitution that is full of checks and balances, but as it was submitted to the states for the ratification it became clear that they might not get the nine states they needed unless there were promises of still more controls ov
originally called in response to set oralism in government, which i prefer -- secularism in government, which are for. a country which invites everyone into it, all religions and nationalities, must by definition be secular. any religious direction we choose is going to favor somebody, and i thought that is what we were trying to avoid. at least i thought that is what jefferson meant when he talked about religious freedoms. host: ok. caller: freedom from religion. host: when you go to vote in a presidential election or congressional election, what are the big factors in your decision? caller: usually economic. i did not consider -- i don't consider religion unless it interferes with some legislation. it plays a very little role in my life. host: would you call yourself unaffiliated religiously? caller: relatively i am an atheist. so, yes, i am unaffiliated. host: here is the "christian science monitor," their cover. the new face of faith. what is happening in new england, the countries most secular region, may have a future of american religion. traditional religions are seeing their ranks th
real trouble just doing basic run of the mill governing stuff. bills failing unexpectedly and needing to be pulled at the last minute and tried again. the republican leadership's own legislation failing to get enough republican votes to pass. and that happening in public because they couldn't count it properly in private? they did get better at all the symbolic stuff that does not have real world consequences. they may not have been able to find their way through the constitution on the first day in the majority. but they did figure out how to fake symbolically repeal obama care 33 separate times. it didn't mean anything, but when there were things that didn't mean anything that were just symbolic, ultimately they figured out that they could get some of that stuff done. but when things really did matter, like in the debt ceiling standoff, when the republicans decided to block something they happily voted for dozens of times under republican presidents, they did end up having to vote to raise the debt ceiling, but not before they pushed the fight so far and so late that the nation's bo
a country, we have the articles of confederation, and that government's two weeks, writing the constitution. this is where the second amendment obviously comes in. how did that all development? what's the -- >> guest: well, nowadays it's become fashionable among people who support gun rights strongly to pick out this or that quotation from this or that leader like samuel adams, thomas jefferson, or whoever and apply the second amendment was seen as a way to enable individuals to defend themselves and defend themselves against the government when it was tie tyrannical. that's a mismonsing. it was a political matter, the second amount. it was part of what became the bill of rights, and the reason for it is that when -- after the unhappy experience of the articles of confederation that led the founders to try to figure out a better way to govern the country, they came up with the constitution which we know is full of checks and balances, but as it was submitted to the states for ratification, it became clear that they might not get the nine states needed unless there were promises of still mor
of people talking tonight. >>> i spy with my little eye. the government issues a warning to parents about who's tracking your kids, their personal information and what they're doing on all those mobile devices. >>> and how does he do it? >> he types is the house number and then the name appears up on the ipad. >> for the inside scoop on all things santa, we went straight to the experts. >> he showed me where the elves were. >>> good evening. after the his defiant and controversial response on friday to renewed calls for stronger gun laws in the wake of the connecticut school shooting, the head of the nra finally took questions today. wayne lapierre sat down with nbc's david gregory this morning to explain why he opposes an assault weapons ban and why he wants to address gun violence in schools with more guns. it is an emotional debate touching still-tender nerves over the deaths at sandy hook elementary among those who hold dear their constitutional right to own guns. we have two reports tonight beginning with white house correspondent peter alexander in our washington newsroom tonight. p
who captured. what they campaigned against was spending money on government, that is what taxes are. got it? and that's hardball for now, thanks for being with us "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. the president cuts his vacation short to come back to washington, d.c., meanwhile, house republicans are literally phoning it in, this is the ed show, and as ed would say, let's get to work. >> this is something within our capacity to solve. it doesn't take that much work, we just have to do the right thing. >> six days away from the fiscal cliff and there are real consequences to millions of americans if no deal is cut. congressman elijah cummings and ryan grim of the huffington post are here with the latest. a tea party giant stages a coupe with his own office. the details on dick armey's hostile takeover. the nra is catching heat from all directions. >> i don't think the nra is listening, i don't think they understand. >> georgetown university law professor, david cole on the gro
,000 young people have applied for basically deferred action, which means i ask the government not to deport me, to defer any action and we give them a work permit. people remember last august, at navy pier in chicago where 12,000 young people forward, and many of them have work permits and many more thousands every week. that's a step in the right direction. the problem is last week in chicago, there was a raid looking for a criminal. but they picked up 30 some odd workers at the plant and the very people that i came to my office, one of them was a person who had come to my office, with their children, the children got a work permit and now the government is working to deport their dad. they need their parents. i understand going after criminals, gang bangers, drug dealers people who do harm. but we are damaging so many families. >> you said earlier this month, the president was essentially missing on the issue of immigration reform. what did you mean about that? >> yeah, let me explain that, as we know, we have conversations and that is why i like live conversations, it's all listened to a
also want to see hiring happening and that's where that government jobs report that we focus on once a month, that's where that comes into play. we're going to get the next one next week, that government jobs report and the big worry, carol, that's hanging over all of this is the fiscal cliff. although we're still in the middle of wondering what congress is going to do about it, companies are already holding back hiring so that is clearly impacting the jobs market but the good news once again is the layoffs are slowing, down 12,000 to 350,000 last week. carol? >> thank you very much, washington. alison kosik thank you so much. >>> growing outrage over the decision of a new york newspaper to publish a map with the names and addresses of people who have gun permits. the interactive map was created with information available publicly. it pinpoints the location of legally licensed permit holders for handguns. we reached out for a statement from the newspaper, it sent us this, "the massacre in newtown, connecticut, remains at top-of-mind for many of our readers. or readers are understanda
as a government to having this constant blind loyalty to this foreign nation even when it damages u.s. interest. hagel is one of the military people who raised this issue and that's the reason there's a vicious attack against him. >> do you not think that's true? >> i'm not going to address those issues specifically, but from a civil liberties perspective i think one of the main things to focus on from looking at the obama national security team in the second administration is how will they help shape the obama administration's legacy? any president in the second administration is going to focus on legacy. one question for us from the perspective of the department of defense is is this going to be someone who is going to continue to push the idea of an always and forever war where we the united states are an outliar and no allie agrees with us. or will people within the administration now push what jay johnson talked about inrecentlyo retire, who said it is an always and forever thing about war and we are about to reach a tipping point against it. >> i think he's a good pick for obama, and i th
coming in to the federal government and regresive in many ways and what it does is funds social security. so should we have even been tinkering with that in the first place? >> one tax cut that, you know, the democrats lobbying for and the republicans did not want because it's technically a stimulative effort. don't forget when it was enacted we were in the middle of a crisis. i think, you know, all sides would probably agree it helped and worked but it's probably time to go away so that's sort of, you know, it is the most immediate thing and i think that was inevitable anyway. the far greater concern is the bush tax cuts and what happens to them. >> you talk about the middle class shouldn't feel the pain here and everybody agrees with that but the working class, absolutely shouldn't have to pay for this and feel the pain but taking, getting rid of unemployment ben filths, talk about the price of milk going up and other things like that, that will have a huge impact on the working class, people that don't have savings dealing with losing $3,400 and can't deal with that at all and that's
. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: s. 3709, a bill to require a government accoun accountability office examination of transactions between large financial institutions and the federal government and for other purposes. the presiding officer: is there objection to proceeding to the measure? without objection. mr. reid: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that the vitter-brown of ohio amendment, which is at the desk, be agreed to, and the bill add amende as e read a third time and passed, motions to reconsider be laid on the table, that all statements related to the bill be placed in the record at the appropriate place as if read. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. reid: i ask unanimous consent the foreign relations committee be discharged from further consideration of s. res. 613 and we proceed to that matter now. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: s. res. 613, urging the governments of europe and the european union to designate hezbollah as a terrorist organization and so forth. the presiding officer: is there objection to proce
the debt ceiling but also come march, you will have to figure out how to extend government spending for the rest of the fiscal year. and they don't, the government would shut down. there are major fiscal fights that need to be resolved beyond the immediate fiscal cliff. we are not even talking about the major policies that you are talking about. immigration reform and gun control legislation, those are things that can fall by the wayside if we are consumed by the fiscal talks which seems likely. >> it seems they crawl from one crisis to the next. thank you, sir, we will see you later in the hour. >> thank you. >> president obama will be talking about the fiscal cliff with david gregory on "meet the press" tomorrow, it's an exclusive interview, check your local listings for the air times. if you miss it, we will rerun it on msnbc tomorrow afternoon at 3:00. >>> want to update you on developing news in houston. george h. w. bush has been released from icugabe is staineding by. you told us two hours ago that the president was singing to doctors and unurses, he sounds like he is doing b
government agencies are planning no immediate changes because they're anticipating some kind of deal. that leaves the unemployed, extended unemployment insurance will expire immediately if we go over the cliff. a deal later in january could theoretically restore extended benefits, the immediate damage will have already been done. for many people, this is all an interesting charade. but for the unemployed it's the real deal. get your cell phones out, i want to know what you think. tonight's question, who will the public blame if we go over the fiscal cliff? text a for democrats, text b for republicans to 622329. i'll bring you the results later in the show. >>> joining me now is congressman elijah cummings of maryland. welcome to the show. >> it's good to be with you. >> what do you make of the latest posturing. the house will they reconvene before january? they have a lot of stuff to do, so clearly they can't make it back to d.c. to do the people's business. >> as you said a few minutes ago, we have been assured we would be given at least 48 hours notice before we would have to come
overseas. that's right i heard me right. there are reports that syria may have used a separate government air strike that killed dozens of people waiting outside a bakery yesterday. they may have used chemical weapons for that. what may be more troubling is the report of seven others killed in an area currently controlled by the rebels when they inhaled an apparently poisonness gas sprayed by the syrian army. president obama had already declared that there is a red line regarding the use of chemical weapons on the syrian people. so now there are growing questions as to what if anything the u.s. cou should do if we are forced to respond. bob scales is a retired u.s. army major general and fnc military analyst. general, merry christmas, thanks for joining us. >> merry christmas to you too, jaime. jaime: you have to become more concerned about syria at this point. have they crossed the red line and should we respond. >> first of all let's be clear that most initial reports are wrong. it could be what is used is white phosphorus which is not a chemical weapon, when it's dropped from an aircra
leaders are charging fraud. official results are due tomorrow. >> a syrian government air strike in a town near the city of homa has reportedly killed dozens. peateur video appears to show the aftermath of the attack which struck a bakery where people were lining up for their first bread in days. in damascus, meanwhile, u.n. peace envoy brahimi arrived today for more talks with president assad. in his attempt to remain in power, assad has cultivated the support of minority groups athin his ethically divided country. elizabeth palmer saw that policy at work during a recent visit to the southern town of swada. >> reporter: conflict has engulfed syria over the past months from one end of the country to the other. but so far it barely touched this town in southern syria near the border with jordan. the people who live here are a religious group that has allied itself with president assad. good afternoon. when we arrived it in town to meet the governor, syrian state media was waiting for us. the regime is anxious to showcase this community full of official supporters willing to reinforce the pa
and the republicans in future negotiations. and raised a question of whether anyone can get a governing majority in the house of representatives when it comes to the budget. those are really serious matters. now it does go to the senate where harry reid and mcconnell can try to come to some, you know, functional su render for republicans and kick the cannon a lot of other issues and see if that can pass in the next ten days am buts that still has to pass the house. and so i think the chances of backing off of the cliff are higher than they ever have been. >> you know, i listened to some of these recalcitrant house republicans today, mark. and they were saying, i was to the going to vote for a tax increase when my constituent was never have gone along with that. >> well, i think there are two realities, here, judy. first of all there's a lot of republicans, more than a few democrats who are terrified of one thing, that's being primary, primary opponent without going to run on your right if you are a republican. on your left if you are a democrat. it's really become a problem for republicans. beca
in western syria. witnesses say a government warplane dropped bombs on a bakery today where long lines of people were waiting just to get some bread. more than 100 people are dead now. i want to talk to cnn's mohammed j j jamjoon. >> reporter: it's horrific details that have emerged the past few hours since we first reported this bombing. activists tell us that around 3:00 to 4:00 p.m. local in syria today that this warplane dropped this shell on this bakery. they say that hundreds of people were lined up outside, that there had been shortages of food throughout the last week. this was the first day that that bakery that had been hit was open and that because of that, at least 100 people they say were killed. the video that we've seen posted online, we can't independently verify it, but it seems to be corroborated by what we've been told by activists. it shows an absolutely grisly scene, mangled bodies in the wreckage of the building and the rubble. you see rebel free syrian army soldiers and civilians trying to tend to the wounded, taking them to the hospital and pulling dead bodies o
in entertainment and gaming are possible in health care, education and all government services. >> if we can dig down into education a bit more because i think the disparity in our education system, the haves and have nots in terms of education is another major barrier in terms of keeping the american dream alive. our education system has basically worked the same from inception. the classroom that my daughter will be in looks like the one i was in. looks like the one my parents were in. it seems like that we may may be on the verge of a technological revolution. some example i will give you is these massive open online courses where high level institutions like harvard and mit are opening up courses to thousands of people around the world, typically free and typically no credit given. students are grading each other because there so many you could never hope to have a professor grade all the students's work. what sort of innovations do you see transforming the classroom in the way that education is delivered? >> the main thing about the internet-driven revolution and every sector of the economy
a government where the citizens were unarmed and the government was so powerful it could kill people. it is not just for hunting. it is for personal protection from foreigners that might come in. it could be terrorists or our own government turning on us. we always think we are protected because we have the freedom but just like reagan and some of them have said, we are always one step away from losing those freedoms. that is one thing to be said. the other thing is that i believe the entertainment industry is a lot to blame in many ways. we have the violent video games, first person shooters, that desensitize the kids and adults. . host: that goes to the freedom of speech of the american constitution. how do you think congress should deal with the entertainment industry, video games, and the arguments that we will hear from supporters of the entertainment industry saying this might infringe on the first amendment? caller: there is a first amendment right but there is personal responsibility and a moral responsibility. all we are putting out there is sex and violence. the sex is a bl
was going on? why wasn't our government helping? >> it was bewildering. the parents tried to do it low-key. they couldn't get the case resolved. they came to me and our two wonderful u.s. senators. thanks to fox. thanks to o'reilly, sean hannity, greta, all of you were so helpful. all the press helped but you guys came to bat. that's why i don't really understand or believe that during a white house press briefing that the white house spokesperson said, oh, i don't know about the case. baloney. everybody had known about the case. gregg: they knew. >> we had been bringing that up. gregg: right. >> this is a family of strong christian faith. for them, as we celebrate the birth of christ tonight what a more meaningful present than, than the god delivering their son to them tonight. gregg: look, we want to talk to you about a couple of subjects here and that one, thankfully turned out well. let's turn now to benghazi because you are very involved in this. an independent investigation, i know you read it, produced this blisser iting report what they refer to as systemic failures in the very
on their own. >>> in egypt today, more effects of a brand-new government's growing pains. the vice president is out. he is stepping down there. this man, mahmud mechanicy announced political life does not agree with him, and he'll go back to being a judge. it's the same day the egyptian people are voting for a second straight weekend on proposed changes to the country new islamist backed constitution. egypt's new president gave himself near absolute power. >>> a former u.s. marine who spent four months in a mexican prison is free today. jon hammer was locked up in august on weapons charges. his family says he was physically abused in custody, threatened, chained to a bed and never saw a judge. u.s. lawmakers and diplomats got involved on ma'am hammer's behalf and convinced mexican authorities to release him. [ bells tolling ] >> america is pausing to remember the newtown shooting victims. church bells rang out friday exactly one week after the tragedy. flags remained at half staff. many websites even went dark. people all over the country observed a moment of silence for the 20 children and
different areas of government. there's a lot that the executive branch can do. there's a lot of leadership that president obama can provide that he's not provided on this issue. and there's a lot of hearts and minds that have to change in congress. a lot of them republican, and also some democrats. i think it's up to us as citizens if we want to see changes happen, to take off the party label and demand it of our elected officials. a lot of times politicians act because the citizens are demanding it and crying out for it. that's what has to happen on this issue. we have to lead and they will follow. >> i always say our democratic issue -- and it is, it's going to take all of us to do it. and we have to take the politics out of it. elzi, i'll give you the last word. go ahead and go on as long as you want. sorry i cut you off. >> what she described is a microcosm of what's wrong in washington. our elected officials and the president are supposed to be defenders of the second amendment. there's defenders of the constitution. not a lobbying group, but it's the lobbyists who have our government
our democracy was supposed to work. our government of and by and for the people. we have a system of government where nobody is above the law. where we have an obligation to hold each other accountable. >> president obama was not only honoring a public servant who inspired him personally, but paying homage to a past or a functional one. a past that is a flash in the rear-view mirror of this congress because this is the congress of today. >> as you know, the house did not take up the tax bill last night because we didn't have the votes to pass it. it's not the outcome that i wanted. that was the will of the house. >> it was the will of the house to do nothing? on thursday night, the members of the elected house of representatives decided it would you describe not their will to take a vote on their own leadership's proposal. it would have exempted the first million dollars of income from a tax increase. there was no chance of being passed into law as the president made clear he would veto it. if the speaker's plan b passed the democrat controlled senate. this was a republican propos
in the country under the thumb of the federal government. congress debated this at length. they said if you're a -- a hobbyist or collector, a hunter in virginia wants to sell the gun to another hunter, they ought to be able to do it without being under the thumb of the federal government. >> if you want to check and screen more thoroughly for the mentally ill, why not screen more thoroughly for everybody and eliminate the fact that 40% can buy a weapon without a background check? >> we don't prosecute anybody under the gun laws right now. >> that's not responsive to the question. i hear you saying you can't do anything about high capacity ammunition magazines because it simply won't work yet you're proposing things that might not work. you're standard is anything that has a chance of working we ought to try except when it has to do with guns or ammunition. don't you see that people see that as a complete dodge? >> nra supports what works. we have accidents down to 1/10 what they used to be. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a g
's government unleashes its most sophisticated weapons of the war. missiles from iran. we'd like to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. wolf blitzer is off today. i'm candy crowley and you're in "the situation room." >>> i want to begin with a crisis you probably don't know is coming and, of course, is just about to hit. barring a last minute deal, union dock workers at more than a dozen major ports will go on strike this weekend. meaning just about everything we buy, from clothes to cars, can't be unloaded. the strike would impact 14 port along the eastern seaboard in gulf coast, including the port of baltimore and that's where we find cnn's brian todd live. the potential impact of this is pretty big. >> reporter: it's huge, candy. right here, this is one of the most crucial ports for commerce in this region. the sieger terminal. you can see massive container ships sitting in port. this is the port terminal with the bustling operations, containers still being moved in and out of here by a truck that are being offloaded from the ships here at the terminal. about
. with their votes, the american people have determined that governing is a shared responsibility between both parties. in this congress, laws can only pass with support from democrats and republicans. and that means nobody gets 100% of what they want. everybody has to give a little bit in a sensible way. we move forward together, or we do not move forward and all. so, as we leave town for a few days to be with our families for the holidays, i hope it gives everybody some perspective. everybody can cool off. everybody can drink some eggnog and have some christmas cookies, sing some christmas carols, enjoy the company of loved ones. i would ask members of congress to think about the obligations we have to the people. think about the hardship that so many people will endure if congress does nothing at all. just as our economy is starting to recover, and we are starting to see optimistic signs -- we have seen up statistics in a range of areas, including housing. this is not the time for self-inflicted wounds, certainly not those coming from washington. there is so much to be done on jobs, income,
year's was in 1996. that is, of course, when they were dealing with the government shut down. politics will be put aside this morning. the president, a lot of members of congress will be attending that memorial service for the late senator. >> kristen welker in hawaii. we will check in with you again later in our show. >>> from the fiscal cliff to gun control nra executive vice president was on "meet the press" this morning and here is part of what he said. >> i don't understand why you can't just for a minute imagine that when that horrible monster tried to shoot his way into sandy hook school that if a good guy with a gun would have been there he might have been able to stop it. >> nbc news editor is with me in the studio. there were armed guards at columbine. >> we know the nra is going to dig in. nothing is going to change until the other side can show that it can win these kinds of arguments. we saw this with environmental regulations in the 70s. you saw this in the 90s with the assault weapons ban. i think a lot of democrats got spooked after the mid 90s because so many of them l
rebels say the government tanks fired some type of poison gas on the city of homs. they uploaded victi videos, whee victims are shown receiving treatment. it shows they suffer from heavy dose of tear gas and irritant, no at chemical weapon like serrin gas. troops loyal to president bashar assad suddenly find themselves playing defense. force to abandon large swath of the north, they resorted to firing scud missiles in the direction of the rebel enclave. time and momentum appear on side of the rebels. video shows them using better tactics, fighting as coordinated army, better equipped by the weapons they capture from the syrian government bases. 200,000 bullets, 3,000 hand grenades and cannon inventory at aleppo captured over the weekend. >> there is aftermath of bombing. some videos show civilian casualties. proving the line between civilian and citizen soldiers is blurred. now the rebels will face far greater challenge as they push government troops back and fight in cities they are no longer among friendly population. >> many observers note they have at least nine lives of proverbial
at best. it's not a lot of enthusiasm on capitol hill for the idea of the federal government stepping in and endorsing the idea of all schools having armed police officers. never mind funding it. listen to a couple of senators, starting with a republican. >> we had an armed guard in columbine. we had an assault ban. none of it worked. we're talking about preventing mass murder from nontraditional criminals. people who are not traditional criminals, who are not wired right for some reason. >> since we passed the brady law, the assaults are down. we need to keep working on this, and there are lots of different solutions. >> just because the republicans may not be running to this idea that the nra put forward does not mean that they are going to support the first piece of legislation we're going to see in the new congress on this issue, which is a bill to reinstate the assault weapons ban. and most importantly, carol, it's not just the republicans who might be skittish on that. it's also a fair number of moderate democrats who are up for re-election in the next cycle, 2014, who are from
, are workers across the country going to see an extra little bump in the amount the government takes from their paychecks starting january 1? >> not starting january 1. technically, these tax cuts would expire at the beginning of the year. so that is the truth. however, if you were looking at your paycheck and you fell certainly under seeing your taxes increase, you wouldn't see that kick in right january 1st. processors, payroll processors would use the 2012 equation to deal with that, and until there's some certainty in exactly what's going to happen, they wouldn't use the new equation. so you wouldn't see it until perhaps the end of january, the beginning of february. but if the country were say, hypothetically speaking to go off the cliff that to persist, ultimately somewhere into late january, you might see that affect your paycheck. >> oh, dear. the house speaker john boehner was dealt what seems to be a hugely embarrassing blow by his own party when they refused to vote on his plan b proposal. how bad is it for republicans right now? >> well, right now, they are sitting at home in
should have stayed there. i think the president should have stayed there. i think the government should have stayed in place and kept working on it. as a freshman member of the congress, i don't have the pull or the power to say when we're going to be there, when we're not, but at the u.s. house of representatives has acted, we're waiting for the senate to act and i believe that as soon as they act, we'll be back in town to find some forge, some pathway forward. >> well, a senior white house official told cnn tonight to that point, they said we believe strongly a reasonable package can get majorities in both houses. the only thing that would prevent it is if speaker mcconnell and boehner don't cooperate rate. do you think mcconnell and boehner are in the mood to cooperate with president obama? >> i do believe they're in a mood to cooperate. speaker boehner's talked for a very lopg time about a grand bargain, a big deal, about trying to find some major solution going forward. but the senate hasn't acted on anything, so i think we have to be careful on just placing the blame on mcconnell
, is not very well suited to this particular circumstance, and it's not well suited to democratic governance when you have divided government and have a chunk of the republican caucus which simply will not align the power that they have with the policy goals that they have. and it's a matter of when they figure that out and when the leadership decides to act upon that knowledge, but we haven't gotten there. >> right, well, when they figure it out is a key question, because days can turn into years in washington. i want to pick up on something you were pointing out the night of the plan b non-vote where you likened the troubles republicans are having now to other pieces in history. you wrote the political parties with losing hands don't change until they've absorbed lots of punishment, see dems 1968 to 1988, a long stretch, gop not done yet. i thought that was such an interesting point you made that night, because for a lot of people watching, it is hard to understand why a combination of tax cuts for most of the country and spending cuts and according to the last offer a type of social secur
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